I Are Dunecat

[djdunecat]

I are dunecat, controller of both spice and universe. Check out my myspace at www.myspace.com/djdunecat. Tell me what you think either on myspace or here.

[creepster]

i can say the "i-can-haz-cheezburger" way of writing is so the month before last year and i rather give myself a facial peeling with a cheese grater

still checking out the music though

[mikepowell512]

Hi Dune,

I check out all of your music on your channel and realized thats great. :)

But I miss there one very important thing for me:
Emotions.

Tempo, rhytm, melody - all great.. But all is too "artificial"..

I think this because now, in modern world, everybody is surrounded by a huge amount of electronics, technologies and inventions.. It has many advantages but after a while a feelnig of "to be alone and depressed" become stronger..

I think, if become a reality that industrial means for me somewhen in the future, people will want to "preserve" that rest of humanity, which still they will have..

And the core of humanity are emotions..
Because of that I like songs like e.g. "Metal Machine Music" by Die Krupps.. That anger, determination, questioning.. Never allow to become the machine.. Be bad, cruel, be rude and swear like a trooper but never become the machine.

(I apologise for my grammar, Im not sure that I wrote this correctly)

[Drewthetexan]

I are dunecat, controller of both spice and universe. Check out my myspace at www.myspace.com/djdunecat. Tell me what you think either on myspace or here.

Spice? that made me laugh!


I like what you've done.  The lolcatz thing doesn't do it justice. 

Some of your stuff really reminded me of Xorcist. I love Xorcist.

(...)

(I apologise for my grammar, Im not sure that I wrote this correctly)

Jesus, if only some people in the States could manage grammar half as well as you do...

I was going to make suggestions, but your posts give you so much character that I refuse to. I don't know anyone that has english 100% figured out.  You definitely write with a Slavic style and I don't think that's a bad thing.   :)

[mikepowell512]

(...)

(I apologise for my grammar, Im not sure that I wrote this correctly)

Jesus, if only some people in the States could manage grammar half as well as you do...

I was going to make suggestions, but your posts give you so much character that I refuse to. I don't know anyone that has english 100% figured out.  You definitely write with a Slavic style and I don't think that's a bad thing.   :)

Oh, thank you for so strong positive energy vawe to my english grammar.. :P
This would can see my teacher from the high grammar school, where I was been learned some useful phrases.. (like "Id like a beer, please.") :D

Im not sure If I understood clearly what you meant with "your refused character".. Perhaps it will be too bodacious if I want to learn more about this, so Im not asking...

So only my point of view on my character, if I might.. (A small explanation):
My life has never been simple. I have learned many things and skills, which makes me like I am.
I learned to make my own rules because of there havent been any of them, which I has agreed with.
I try to think about things and craics surrounding us.. Mostly using logic and sometimes empathy, if possible and/or necessary.. So that I had written was another of my "muses"..  :)

Yup, my english has still too many slavic strokes but Im going to do make it better..
..but if you like it so much.. :P I steady on this for a while longer..

[Drewthetexan]

LOL!

Well, I meant how you write gives you character. I was refusing to correct the common mistakes Slavic people make when speaking english.  And the refusal was more of a joke than anything serious. (if you want to know, I'll point them out)

But, and don't take this wrong, I think you got a bit excited with this last one and forgot some of the rules! :)

[mikepowell512]

LOL!

Well, I meant how you write gives you character. I was refusing to correct the common mistakes Slavic people make when speaking english.  And the refusal was more of a joke than anything serious. (if you want to know, I'll point them out)

But, and don't take this wrong, I think you got a bit excited with this last one and forgot some of the rules! :)

U-huh..
:D
As Im looking on my last one and then on your last one..The right comprehension seems to be bigger problem for me than the grammar is.. Never mind, I make some fun there at least.. :D (and once more learned a bit)

But I dont know - what rules you are speaking about..?

[creepster]

LOL!

Well, I meant how you write gives you character. I was refusing to correct the common mistakes Slavic people make when speaking english.  And the refusal was more of a joke than anything serious. (if you want to know, I'll point them out)

But, and don't take this wrong, I think you got a bit excited with this last one and forgot some of the rules! :)

i think this thread calls for a new forum "english for foreigners"
it would certainly help the purely german speaking population of DG who comes across every once a while and post
and it makes my toenails curls up ... i know i know ... i should not say anything with english being my second language as well and i sure know i am making mistakes in regard to grammar, spelling and choice of words

mike, the reason nobody really bothers is that 1) your sentences are coherent enough to be understood (more or less ... but then you have people like Angels_Decay who is american and as easy to understand as a gagged person on speed) 2) your english is not mangled by chat acronyms or styles (which has the same effect as nails over chalkboard when reading) 3) you more or less keep on track with the current topic

american people tend to think of foreigners making mistakes as "cute" and at least we did go the extra mile and learned a second language!
ha!


in regard to grammar mistakes, i just remember my italian colleague who still was influenced by italian grammar and always said things like "bottle empty" rather than "empty bottle"
that's also cute and always made me laugh (;

[creepster]

back on topic, i think some of the material is not bad at all and DG suitable
certainly songs vary in type which is kind of nice, not sure if a lot of people mind the completely instrumental arrangement without any lyrics (i don't)

my fav tracks going through it the first time are "veal milanese", "technocracy" and "sandworm"

cool beans!

[mikepowell512]

i think this thread calls for a new forum "english for foreigners"
it would certainly help the purely german speaking population of DG who comes across every once a while and post
and it makes my toenails curls up ... i know i know ... i should not say anything with english being my second language as well and i sure know i am making mistakes in regard to grammar, spelling and choice of words

mike, the reason nobody really bothers is that 1) your sentences are coherent enough to be understood (more or less ... but then you have people like Angels_Decay who is american and as easy to understand as a gagged person on speed) 2) your english is not mangled by chat acronyms or styles (which has the same effect as nails over chalkboard when reading) 3) you more or less keep on track with the current topic

american people tend to think of foreigners making mistakes as "cute" and at least we did go the extra mile and learned a second language!
ha!


in regard to grammar mistakes, i just remember my italian colleague who still was influenced by italian grammar and always said things like "bottle empty" rather than "empty bottle"
that's also cute and always made me laugh (;

:)

Yes, english grammar can be sometimes difficulty and nature language affection is still too strong..
But Im strictly against that neš forum, even if that have been written like a joke.. This is an english-spoken forum, so everybody would have to speak in this language and successfuly, more or less..

But I could sometimes write to the topic "Post something funny".. :D The same effect.. :D

Edit: The song "Technocracy" by DJ Dunecat is my favourite, too.

[Drewthetexan]

mike, the reason nobody really bothers is that 1) your sentences are coherent enough to be understood (more or less ... but then you have people like Angels_Decay who is american and as easy to understand as a gagged person on speed) 2) your english is not mangled by chat acronyms or styles (which has the same effect as nails over chalkboard when reading) 3) you more or less keep on track with the current topic

american people tend to think of foreigners making mistakes as "cute" and at least we did go the extra mile and learned a second language!
ha!

I don't know if I would describe it as "cute", but given that many americans are egocentric, I can see this description fitting. To me, the errors highlight that someone has learned my language, and I always appreciate that.

I have been teased for speaking spanish by Mexicans, so I know it is awkward and sometimes embarrassing to try to speak or write in someone else's native language.

Creepster nailed this right on, Mike. You get your message across just fine even if sometimes your sentences are a little broken. So what. You don't master a language except to use it often. And I'll stand by what I said, I've seen better sentences from you than people who grew up speaking and writing english their entire lives.
 
And to keep it on topic (on DG? Never!) I also like Veal Milanese and Technocracy. 

[mikepowell512]

I don't know if I would describe it as "cute", but given that many americans are egocentric, I can see this description fitting. To me, the errors highlight that someone has learned my language, and I always appreciate that.

Im glad that allmost all on the DGF arent egocentric.. I find that there have been created a group of intelligent, nice and open-minded people who can discuss about everything, as from the "constructing supressors" to the "pink pencil".. :)
Im pretty glad that I discovered this forum and this radio..
Unique music - unique people.. :)

I read very interesting article in one unnamed scientific magazine.. There were an analysis of dependance ones person type on the music he like.
The sample was really analytical - they analyzed more than 32 000 people.

They absolutely declased the listeners of "free scene" - Indie rock and indie at general, they claimed that those people are quite simple and their IQ average is lower than 90.. There were also some informations that tend to drug addiction and absence of planning in life in their community..

Classical music listeners and jazz fans are very creative both. Theyre usually artists or musicians, who prefer creating than thinking and philosophy. The difference is in their openness - Beethoven fans are mostly introverts, jazzmen are extroverts.

"Bitchpop", "danceshit" and "high school musical addicted" listeners are average people, who done theirs work and dont bother to care about that anymore. People like these are majority but there are also the most exceptions. (Exceptions are everywhere, this is only informative analysis)

Heavy metal maniacs, black metal zombies and death metal undeads are surprisingly very mild and empatic inside. Most of them are romantics.. But there are many ways to be romantic, arent they..

Punks, rockers and hopers are very similar (also strangely enough) - That article claimed that these are all extrovert, independent and determined people, who want to have some fun..
There are some difference, of course. The first is in the elementary part of their society - punks has band (usually more than 5 members), rockers are mostly in pair or in smaller group and hopers havent any elementary part (maybe because of their egocentricity) - they only agregate. Their relationships to each other are the weakest instead of punks - band is everything for them.
Another one is in their songs themes, rockers solve mostly global problems in balance with problems with beer and lack of it, punks are trying to fight with problems of political systems equal to systems of drinking and hopers.. I think there is clearer than clear what those are trying to solve.. I think theres also a difference between their intelligence but I let you to make the order yourself..

The country fans are considered to be very hard-working, strenuous and strong characters who dont care about others things too much.. But another source claims that those people are also inclining to suicidal leanings..

As you certainly know, the most related genre to industrial is gothic scene, especially gothic metal.
Some opinions claims that Gothic and Industrial are like jin and jang, the mans and the womans way to express the feeling of modern era.
Womans way is fullfilled fith sorrow, pain, feeling of leave this world and agony but there are also hope, expectations and "naturefication"..

Mans way is full of anger, rage from powerlessness, injustice and decay of everything that is positive by humans greed and inconsideration...

..and therefore surprises me a little what i read there: Industrial fans are generally very clear, intelligent and inovative people, who have very broad area of interest. Their IQ is much higher than average and they use it.


..and I make certain of this fact on this forum.

Creepster nailed this right on, Mike. You get your message across just fine even if sometimes your sentences are a little broken. So what. You don't master a language except to use it often. And I'll stand by what I said, I've seen better sentences from you than people who grew up speaking and writing english their entire lives.
 
And to keep it on topic (on DG? Never!) I also like Veal Milanese and Technocracy. 

Im pleased about that you said.. But its more the inspiration than a compliment for me..

..and youre right, the last post always differ from the first one.. Like in that topic, where they started with industrial music and finished in the middle of debate about the "new pink pencil" :D

[Lexus]

Oh, just keep posting on English speaking forums Mike, and youll smooth out a lot of grammar, spelling and comprehension mistakes. Its how I learned most of my English. That and a lot of tv and English books. Cant count of a high school to teach me anything more then how much I hate loads of people and gymnastics.


And strange. I read an article that said Goths and people who listen to metal are generally more depressed and stuff.

And most people from the Indie scene I know arent drug addicted retards. Then again, how reliable is it to judge entire personalities based on their musical preferences.

[mikepowell512]

Oh, just keep posting on English speaking forums Mike, and youll smooth out a lot of grammar, spelling and comprehension mistakes. Its how I learned most of my English. That and a lot of tv and English books. Cant count of a high school to teach me anything more then how much I hate loads of people and gymnastics.


And strange. I read an article that said Goths and people who listen to metal are generally more depressed and stuff.

And most people from the Indie scene I know arent drug addicted retards. Then again, how reliable is it to judge entire personalities based on their musical preferences.

Certainly! Im determined to do all of thats in your piece of advice.. :P

Hm..That depression didnt surprised me, gothic music is full of themes like suicide and other similar ones..
People are tending to think about almost everything by that music.. And If its listening by some labile person, depression wouldt be far away..

So you know how to choose friends then.. :) That magazine from which I took this had been issued in Czech republic and the analytical data were from Great Britain. There is the situation almost like they described. People and their thinking differs one from another..
Youre right, judging whole group based on some data isnt proper..
There are still a lot of exceptions..
I wrote only a piece of information which seems to me interesting.. :)