IxceIX
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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2008, 09:29:38 am » |
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i think cleanse fold and manipulate is one of there best albums. Vivisect VI had some great songs on it as well (dog shit, who's laughing now). Anyone remember that Rob Lowe movie that had Who's Laughing now in it? I think it was called Bad Influence.
anyways....
the newer stuff is good as well but i think im more partial to the older albums since that is what i grew up on. the video for pro-test however was a complete trainwreck.
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Drkdzine
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2008, 10:07:40 am » |
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Who has the complete video of all the skinny puppy music videos? raise your hand. I debate.. i think Too Dark Park was one of their greatest albums. By my opinion that is. I mean Process was well not good as much as i hate siding with the norm. But it really wasnt. But to be honest i dug the solo bit he did for two albums, Ohgr. Favorite song off that was "water". Great song. But Greater Wrong of Right, really was a good album to come back on. Mythmaker was a pretty good album, but really it didnt have the kick GWOR did.. but the old skinny puppy is what makes them who they are. I mean to like the new and not appreciate the old. Is well.. odd
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Shirow
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2008, 01:32:47 pm » |
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I think I'm the only person that really liked 'The Process'.
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Drkdzine
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2008, 02:50:44 pm » |
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someone just loves giving me bad karma.. Creepy. i know you love me.. but geez..
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koggen
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2008, 03:59:56 pm » |
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I can't say that I really like The Process, but it's OK. My favorites are really Bites, Remission and Rabies. Warlock, Smothered Hope and Assimilate are some really good songs that more or less define SP for me.
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DeadSeraph
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its funny how so many skinny puppy fans are divided on this subject. Personally I like the older stuff and the newer stuff.
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"Gay colored house. Fluff is aroused." - And one
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Tyrant_242
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I was first introduced to Skinny Puppy back in '88 (everything was so great...no way, wrong date ;D) in my student activist days with PETA. "Testure" was featured on a PETA benefit sampler and when I heard it, it just blew me away. I immediately sought out everything to do with S.P. (which was not easy in those days) and diligently followed them.
Through them I was introduced to F.L.A. when I heard that Bill Leeb had been involved with the band and soon was collecting all F.L.A. too. Which in turn led to a chance procurement of a Front242 12" vinyl import ("No Shuffle") and my descent into industrial madness and the need to assimilate any relative industrial material.
For so many people that have come up with the industrial scene, early Skinny Puppy really defined the whole genre/movement. Lyrics featuring themes of government intrusion, medical abominations, corporate greed, and environmental decay all merged with disturbing samples from horror films coupled with haunting synth lines and staccato machine-gun percussion all set Skinny Puppy apart from EVERYTHING else that was out there (at the time).
Those early albums up through Last Rights were really something extraordinary. The band just tried to contain so many divergent themes, sounds and personalities that it always created something unique. Sometimes the songs stretched the envelope as to what was tolerable and just iota from discordant cacophony. But always there was some force there to haul things back in bounds, make it meaningful and find the beauty amidst the chaos.
After the tragic overdose death of Dwayne Goettel in '95 in became apparent who that influence was. I'd always assumed with Ogre's lyrics and Key's music that they were the real creative duo of the band, but everything recorded since '95 indicates otherwise. Perhaps the death of their bandmate took something out of them and they just weren't as dedicated to the mission as they were before. I don't know.
Regardless, for all intents and purposes to me, Skinny Puppy died with Dwayne Goettel in 1995 before The Process was released.
Everything since may have merit in some people's minds, that is their opinion and their right.
But it's not, and never will be again, truly Skinny Puppy.
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No disagreements there, but in and of itself, I thought some of the later SP releases were still listenable. If they'd had a different band name on them, I think they'd have been given a little more credit. Understandably, it's difficult to go from their old stuff to their new stuff without expectations.
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i agree with those that complained of bands reuniting and retaining the old name. it is a disgrace to the former members to put out ideas that do not represent the original concept. even the subject matter of the new songs is different. i cant say that i enjoy anything after the process because those albums seem to just be a technical showcase of the software and equipment that they are using. vivisectvi and MTPI are by far my most favourite albums, but of course rabies is good (jourgensen and all). dont get me wrong, i love the new wave of almalgamated industrial/trance/ebm/metal stuff, but it has to have some element of musical talent to it.
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