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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2008, 07:36:57 am » |
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The Treason that is reason.
Yeah man...reason is awesome for making a template of music. These days they have some pretty cool refils, but generaly they suck. I like reason coz u dont need an external audiocard for creation. I use pro tools as a main prog and that has to stay as a desktop. I installed reason on my work PC and have been making little cheezy EBM and Trance tunes for over a year while 'working'.
I always use it for the drums, tho you need to pull them out when u want to do propper mixing and mastering...this can get time consuming and tedious.
Yeah I don't even bother with refills anymore... most do suck and really if you're going for a sound there's no "Reason" you can't modify and existing patch from the factory presets or create one of your own... I found that in the beginning it was difficult but I got good at it after a while. Question: what was it about the mixing and mastering that made you pull out the programmed drums? cheers! |
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Jon Meth
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« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2008, 04:57:29 am » |
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Um..I don't always do it, but if I have 30 drum channels..it's always good to break it down and sub group to Aux sends. If a track has a more common 5-10 drum channels, I usually leave them in reason..except fro the kick. when I take out the kick....theres's so much more to hear in the drum track. The problem I'm having at the mo is having to mixdown the entire track without vox...and importing into a new session to do the vox...this can make for a very pop like sound with the vox sitting on top of the mix. reason has soem pretty good automation and OK compressors, so u can do everything from there...but Rock and metal is totally different, as the drums need to pierce through and be mixed together with the vox and then bring in the body after. Some German producer taught me that one.. which actually works quite well.
I can't really diss reason that much, but fo midi, Logic is the best...but wait...what's that comin around the bend....ProTools* with ideas stolen from logic...and yes they finally sorted out their crap ass midi, which now makes Pro Tools the ruler of Audo software..
But so overpriced.....
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Im now xyphon not VIRUS9
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« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2008, 03:08:26 pm » |
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A computer lol but then I send my tracks to my friend who has a LOT of stuff. I was gonna get an Alesis ION but it sold on ebay before I could make the bid!! damnit!
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« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2008, 09:01:18 am » |
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Our entire album was made from start to finish with Cakewalk Sonar Producer. :)
It's a bloody brilliant piece of software that is shamefully unknown/underrated. Kicks Cubases behind any day and you should try it if you can. It's really usable, more so than any other sequencer I've used although that comes down to personal taste, while being shitloads more powerful and streamlined than any other non-hardware based software on the PC platform.
The album was made half-half with plugin synths (too many to list, but I really need to give kudos to Fxpansion DR-008, easily the sweetest little drump sampler around) and hardware such as MS2000, XP30, N5, SH101 and stuff. But nowadays there's really very little, if any, reason to use synth hardware - except for looking cool on stage. 8)
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Jon Meth
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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2008, 06:48:16 am » |
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Sonar's Ok for sure...
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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2008, 07:15:34 am » |
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I just converted to Mac so I guess I'll have to learn Logic instead. :) Anyone have any good tips for resources?
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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2008, 09:00:11 am » |
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I think Ableton works on the Mac, which I really liked.
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« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2008, 09:02:22 am » |
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What's the upsides of Ableton vs Logic?
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« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2008, 09:46:53 am » |
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Ableton has a really cool time warp function that auto adjusts parts into a timescale. It makes using loops a dream, but i wouldn't know, I didn't have the patience to learn it, I just stuck to what I've always had. A better similar feature is Vocalign that u can use in another program, which is more precise, but damn epensive..
Logic, however has the best Midi editing functions out of all the programs....well, HAD, coz now Pro toold 8 has stolen their ideas.....hooray for Pro Tools
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« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2008, 11:41:26 am » |
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I think you have to try Ableton really, to see if you like it. It's a very different beast to most other sequencers.
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« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2009, 10:49:57 pm » |
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I'm using Cubase, Reason, FL Studio, and whatever else I can get my hands on... Performer, Logic, Pro-Tools. I do gotta say all that stuff costs a ton of money. If I were to do it over again I would go all free open source. A good place to start is Ubuntu Studio, it is an operating system, (Linux) built from the ground up specifically for audio use, now this is the "Studio" version not the regular Ubuntu version. It is a full DVD image that you download and burn to a DVD then boot the computer with it and install it on an extra drive. I must emphasize EXTRA drive. You don't want to ever install this over your main windows drive. I've done it baaad idea. Because once windows is gone getting it all set back to how it was is nearly impossible and it might not be able to be recovered, even with the windows recovery disk. I know I had a recovery disk and installed Ubuntu on a laptop, the recovery disk was totally useless! So make sure it's an entirely different drive, whether it's external or internal. I even would go to the extra step to unplug your main windows drive. http://ubuntustudio.org/ |
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Jon Meth
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« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2009, 04:30:57 am » |
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Wow..looks really cool.
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« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2009, 04:53:25 pm » |
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Can I download cakewalk for free?
What about Renoise? Is it a good programme?
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« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2009, 06:24:19 pm » |
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Ok, I found cakewalk for free. Now, what about Renoise? If I use trash-instruments like a keybord for kids and everything sounds very like the 80, may I call it industrial? Is noise industrial?
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« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2009, 04:30:18 pm » |
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Can I download cakewalk for free?
What about Renoise? Is it a good programme?
Renoise has some of the best MIDI support i've seen with a Tracker. It's got a mostly-fully-functional demo. Go try it. I use it, used to use Modplug/Impulse/Schism Tracker, SEQ24, Hydrogen (Linux drum program), and a bunch of hardware. Roland Alpha Juno 2 Korg DSS-1 Korg Poly-800 MK2 (slightly modified ;) Roland SH32 Yamaha TX81Z Random fx processors i picked up on the cheap... Everything i make sucks. |
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